LOM2: The New Age

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This is a thread catalog of ideas that I, Mantera, think should be considered for LOM2. As an RPG, each character has a race, class and faith. Every race/class/faith combination has a unique character title and will come with unique traits. Some skills may be shared, but at varying skill level.


Story Briefing

An age has passed since the fall of Balkoth and his master Golgoth, the God of Death. In the time since, peace befell the lands of Urak. Ancient differences were bent and bowed for rising demand for trades. Battles were seldom witnessed, except largely in part by Barbarian tribes unwilling to accept peace, renegade bands feasting on weak villages and in glorious arenas built by Archons and those of the Barbarians who found compromise. With these few exceptions, there was peace.

In the rebuilding process, many left their native homes to rebuild anew. Many with little knowledge in the building homes out of habitats, many used their surroundings. Dwarves who once settled the soft grounds of the valleys moved into humid and dank caves, as well as the frosty dry cliffs at the ends of the world. Golgothans, human and Elf, crippled from the loss of their once sovereign Lord and master were run into hiding, where many did not emerge for generations.

The allied War Parties of the Eldren, Amazons, Giants, Faeries and Archons who were stationed in each others lands found themselves more permanent homes during the rebuilding process. Culture, ideas and even faith bled into each of the difference races. Even War Parties stationed in different lands build villages and outposts to monitor their ancient enemies. Over many years, contact, conflict and even trade were inevitable.

Peace was no longer an ideal in Urak, it was met. That is until Golgoth recruited the sadistic, pessimistic and outcasts. Golgoth recruited these with promise of power over life and death. Slowly but surely, Golgoth's cult following regrew in the shadows of the lands. Ritualistic killings and rumors of the re-emergence of Golgoth as a major God fueled his return.

The cult, on the brink of becoming a major faith once again, negotiated under the tables and in secret with the leaders of the elemental and 3 remaining spiritual faiths. Bartering with the sure bet that Urak could not continue without the never dying population. Reluctantly, the faiths bestowed the recognition of the cult as the new Death, but were quickly dismissed to the swamps of old. One of the terms of recognition is that the new Death could not have a leader and all agents of Death must act independently.

With the power and recognition as a faith once again, Golgoth endowed a new figure head to succeed the once mighty Balkoth. And the circle of time began to flow through familiar territory, once again.

When Certain Races and Faiths interact, they may generate a unique Race (such as Elf of Order is a Half Elf).

Some Race and Class combinations will be off limits (i.e. Giant Thief).



Well, I would say that race effects stat modifiers, base and by level. Therefore a Barbarian Wizard of (Any race) would yield him poor mana/wisdom/intelligence but excellent physical stats. So in a sense, it would be self defeating to be a Barbarian spellcaster.

To me, I would prefer no cap on race-to-class-to-faith combinations.

Certain races would have their statistical bonuses, while certain faiths would have their inherited bonuses.

I.e. A Giant would have +2 base Strength and +2 base Constitution and -4 base Dexterity racial modifiers.
I.e. Worshiping Air would endow +2 base Dexterity.
I.e. Warrior Class allows for +4 health per level, rather than +2.

Thus an Air Giant would not be so crippled with his -4 Dexterity modifier. Giants wouldn't make for good Thief class characters.

I would have to re-generate a list of Race bonuses and Faith endowments, so that certain combinations offset and such.



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A rough rudimentary table of racial bonuses:

Race	Modifier
Archon (Human)	No bonus/penalty.
Amazon (Human)	-1 Strength, +1 Dexterity.
Barbarian (Human)	+10% Elemental Resistance, -2 Wisdom.
Centaur	+2 Combat Speed, -2 Wisdom.
Dark Elf	+1 Dexterity, -1 Constitution, +1 Movement Speed, -1 Health Recovery.
Dwarf	+2 Strength, +1 Constitution, -2 Dexterity, -1 Movement Speed.
Elf	-1 Strength, -2 Constitution +2 Dexterity, +1 Movement Speed.
Faerie	-2 Strength, -2 Constitution, +2 Dexterity, +2 Movement Speed.
Giant	+2 Strength, +2 Constitution, -4 Dexterity.
Gnome	+2 Intelligence, -2 Strength.
Goblin	+2 Dexterity, -2 Intelligence
Halfling	+1 Dexterity, +1 Stealth, -2 Wisdom.
Lizard	+1 Strength, +1 Dexterity, -2 Wisdom.
Orc	+2 Strength, -2 Intelligence.
Troll	-2 Dexterity, +2 Constitution.
Minotaur	+4 Constitution, -2 Dexterity, -2 Wisdom.

Faith	Modifier
Air	+2 Dexterity.
Chaos	+2 Constitution.
Death	+1 Strength, +1 Wisdom.
Earth	+1 Strength, +1 Constitution.
Fire	+2 Strength.
Life	+1 Dexterity, +1 Wisdom.
Order	+2 Wisdom.
Water	+1 Constitution, +1 Wisdom.

Race	Air	Chaos	Death	Earth	Fire	Life	Order	Water
Archon	+2 Dex	N/A	+1 Str, +1 Wis	+1 Str, +1 Con	+2 Str	+1 Dex, +1 Wis	+2 Wis	N/A
Amazon	-1 Str, +3 Dex	N/A	+1 Dex, +1 Wis	+1 Dex, +1 Con	+1 Str, +1 Dex	-1 Str, +2 Dex +1 Wis	N/A	-1 Str, +1 Dex, +1 Con, +1Wis
Barbarian	+10% Ele. Res, +2 Dex, -2 Wis	+10% Ele. Res, +2 Con, -2 Wis	+10% Ele. Res, +1 Str, -1 Wis	+10% Ele. Res, +1 Str, +1 Con, -2 Wis	+10% Ele. Res, +2 Str, -2 Wis	+10% Ele. Res, +1 Dex, -1 Wis	N/A	N/A
Centaur	+2 Combat Spd, +2 Dex, -2 Wis	+2 Combat Spd, +2 Con, -2 Wis	+2 Combat Spd, +1 Str, -1 Wis	+2 Combat Spd, +1 Str, +1 Con	+2 Combat Spd, +2 Str	+2 Combat Spd, +1 Dex, -1 Wis	+2 Combat Spd,	+2 Combat Spd, +1 Con, -1 Wis
Dwarf	+2 Str, +1 Con, -1 Combat Spd	+2 Str, +3 Con, -2 Dex, -1 Combat Spd	+3 Str, +1 Con, -2 Dex, +1 Wis, -1 Combat Spd	+3 Str, +2 Con, -2 Dex, -1 Combat Spd	+4 Str, +1 Con, -2 Dex, -1 Combat Spd	+2 Str, -1 Dex +1 Con, +1 Wis, -1 Combat Spd	+2 Str, +1 Con, -2 Dex, +2 Wis, -1 Combat Spd	+2 Str, +2 Con, -2 Dex, +1 Wis, -1 Combat Spd
Elf	-1 Str, -2 Con, +4 Dex, +1 Combat Spd.	-1 Str, +2 Dex, +1 Combat Spd.	+2 Dex, -2 Con, +1 Wis, +1 Combat Spd.	+2 Dex +1 Combat Spd.	+1 Str, +2 Dex, -2 Con, +1 Combat Spd.	-1 Str, +3 Dex, -2 Con, +1 Wis, +1 Combat Spd.	-1 Str, +2 Dex, -2 Con, +2 Wis, +1 Combat Spd.	-1 Str, +2 Dex, +1 Wis, +1 Combat Spd.
Faerie
Giant
Gnome
Goblin
Halfling
Lizard
Orc
Troll
Minotaur

Primary Stats: Affected by Faith, Race and/or Class. These stats influence combat stats (secondary stats), combat abilities, feats and spells.

Strength	Each point of base starting Strength grants +1 base melee Attack Power. Every 2 points of Strength beyond adds 1 Attack. Every 10 points of Strength improves corresponding physical combat related feats/abilities.
Dexterity	Each point of base starting Dexterity grants +1 base Armor and +1/2 Ranged Attack and +1/2 Attack & Hit recovery. Every 2 points of Dexterity beyond adds 1 Armor. Every 3 points of Dexterity beyond adds +1 Ranged Attack and +1 Attack and Hit Recovery bonus. Every 10 points of Dexterity improves corresponding physical combat related feats/abilities.
Constitution	Each point of base starting Constitution grants +2 maximum health and +1/3 base Health recovery. Every point of Constitution beyond grants Warriors +2 Health, +1 otherwise, and every 5 points of Constitution grants +1 Health Recovery.
Wisdom	Each point of base starting Wisdom grants +2 maximum mana for wizards, +1 otherwise and grants +1/3 mana recovery. Every 2 points of Wisdom beyond grants +1 mana and every 5 points of Wisdom grants +1 Mana Recovery.
Intelligence	Each point of base starting Intelligence grants +1 Spell Power. Every 2 points of Intelligence beyond grants +1 Spell power.
Charisma	Charisma is character confidence. Boosts morale of allied NPC.

Secondary Stats: Affected by Primary stats, equipment and/or level.

Attack	Influenced by Strength and Weapon Bonuses. A character's ability to strike versus enemy's Armor.
Armor	Influenced by Dexterity and Equipment Bonuses. A character's ability to defend versus enemy strikes.
Ranged Attack	Influenced by Dexterity and Equipment Bonuses. A character's ability to strike, in ranged combat, versus enemy's armor.
Attack Recovery	Influenced by Dexterity and Equipment Bonuses/Penalties. This is the time it takes for a character to recover from Attacking an enemy. A character cannot attack again until he/she has recovered.
Hit Recovery	Influenced by Dexterity and Equipment Bonuses/Penalties. This is the time it takes for a character to recover from being Hit by an enemy. A character can do nothing until he/she has recovered. During this recovery time, the character has a -50% Armor penalty.
Spell Power	Influenced by Intelligence and Equipment Bonuses/Penalties. Determines the maximum Spell Level a character can cast. For each point of Spell Power below the Level of the Spell, the spell's duration and/or effects are reduced 33%. Spell Power above the Level of a Spell yield no bonuses, unless specified.
Health	Influenced by Constitution and Equipment Bonuses/Penalties. Determines how much damage can be endured before being killed. Suffering more damage than health leads to death. Suffering more damage than twice the maximum health leads to total annihilation (no resurrection).
Mana	Influenced by Wisdom and Equipment Bonuses/Penalties. The capacity to cast spells or use specialized combat commands.
Health Recovery	Influenced by Constitution and Equipment Bonuses/Penalties. The character's ability to recover lost health per 12 seconds. When moving or engaged in combat, the recovery time is 18 seconds.
Mana Recovery	Influenced by Wisdom and Equipment Bonuses/Penalties. The character's ability to recover lost mana per 12 seconds. When moving or engaged in combat, mana recovery time is 18 seconds.
Stamina	Influenced by Base Constitution and Equipment Bonuses/Penalties. The number of seconds a character can run/charge before being exhausted. When Stamina drops to zero or less, while running, a character will stop walking. When Stamina drops below zero, a character will suffer the "Exhausted" physical condition, which halves combat speed until Stamina full recovers. Stamina is recovered at a rate of 1 Stamina per second. When moving or engaged in combat, Stamina is recovered at a rate of 1 Stamina per three seconds.

Tertiary Stats: Stats unaffected by Level or Primary Stats. Based expressly on Equipment, Race and/or Class.

Combat/Movement Speed	Influenced by Equipment, Race and Mount. Number of yards a character can travel walk in 10 seconds. Maximum is 9 yards in 10 seconds, minimum is 1 yard in 10 seconds. Running triples the rate of travel, to a maximum of 27 yards per 10 seconds and drains stamina. Before a character can begin running, the character must walk for at least 3 seconds. Before a character can charge, the character must walk for at least 1 second.
Sight Radius	The distance, in a radius of yards, a character can detect hostile and "Stealthed" characters.
Missile Range	Influenced solely on Ranged Weapon and Equipment Bonuses/Penalties. The maximum range, in yards, that a character can hurl a projectile to strike an enemy. An attacking character will always move to within range of a target, if it is out of range, to attack the target. Missile Range varies for each Ranged Weapon.
Stealth	Influenced solely on Race, Class and Equipment. The character's ability to blend in with the environment and move quietly to avoid being detected by enemy sight. Stealth equals how many yards away your character can be before being detected, without a Scout/Detection check. A Stealth value of 3 means you can be 3 yards away without being detected by sight or sound, without a hostile character making a Scout/Detection Check.
Luck	Increases the chance to perform feats, abilities by 1%. May also increases effectiveness of spells.

Class/Race/Faith Limitations:

• Giants may not be Thieves.
  
• Minotaurs may not be Thieves.
  
• Trolls may not be Thieves.
  
• Trolls may only be Elemental.
  
• Lizards may only be Elemental.
  
• Archons cannot worship Chaos or Water.
  
• Amazons cannot worship Chaos or Order.
  
• Barbarians cannot worship Order or Water.
  

Amazons are humans unique to Water.
Archons are humans unique to Order.
Barbarians are humans unique to Chaos.

Race/Faith fusions:

• Order Elf = Half Elf.
  
• Chaos Elf = Half Elf.
  
• Water Elf = Half Elf.
  
• Life Elf = Eldren.
  
• Death Elf = Golgothan.
  
• Air Dwarf = Storm Dwarf.
  
• Chaos Dwarf = Mountain Dwarf.
  
• Death Dwarf = Dark Dwarf.
  
• Earth Dwarf = Hill Dwarf.
  
• Fire Dwarf = Red Dwarf.
  
• Life Dwarf = Spirit Dwarf.
  
• Order Dwarf = White Dwarf.
  
• Water Dwarf = Aqua Dwarf.
  
• Air Lizard = Storm Lizard.
  
• Earth Lizard = Rock Lizard.
  
• Fire Lizard = Flame Lizard.
  
• Water Lizard = Amphibion (Not to be confused with Amphibian).
  
• Air Giant = Storm Giant.
  
• Chaos Giant = Colossus.
  
• Death Giant = Dread Giant.
  
• Earth Giant = Stone Giant.
  
• Fire Giant = Flame Giant.
  
• Life Giant = Spirit Giant.
  
• Order Giant = Titan.
  
• Water Giant = Tidal Giant.
  

Character Stats
All characters start out with 50 combined stats.

Class	Strength	Dexterity	Constitution	Intelligence	Wisdom
Warrior	15	12	13	5	5
Thief	9	16	10	8	7
Mage	7	8	7	14	14

Level bonuses based on class:

Class	Strength	Dexterity	Constitution	Intelligence	Wisdom
Warrior	+1/level	+1/2 lvls	+1/level	+1/5 lvls	+1/5 lvls
Thief	+1/2 lvls	+1/level	+1/2 lvls	+1/3 lvls	+1/3 lvls
Mage	+1/5 lvls	+1/2 lvls	+1/5 lvls	+1 level	+1 level

While idealy certain Race/Faith combinations will yield poor class types, they can still exist and thrive. The Race/Faith bonuses are to help steer players towards generalized combos. On paper, any Faerie Warrior does not look ideal, but may yet still hold cunning.







More to come.…

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Warriors

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Thieves

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Mages

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Weaponry and Equipment

Weapons and Mounts
Two-handed weapons may be used one-handed while on a mount. This means a shield can be equipped in the off hand. This does not mean a second weapon can be equipped. While on a mount, two one-handed weapons may be equipped. Two shields may not be equipped.

Weapon Speed
Weapon Speed is added to the character's Attack Recovery. The Lower the Weapon Speed, the faster the weapon and the lesser the character's Attack Recovery will be increased (the lower the Attack Recovery, the better/faster you are). With a base Attack Recovery of 15, wielding a weapon with a Weapon Speed of 3 will set back your Attack Recovery to 18.


Weapon Leger

Damage Type: S = Slashing. P = Piercing. C = Crushing. M = Magical.

(Melee) Attack: x D y, (x) number of dice (D), number of dice sides (y). [I.e. 1D3], x is minimum attack value, y is maximum attack value.

Striking Distance: Number of feet, or 1/3 Yards, which an attacker may strike an enemy. 3 Feet, or 1 Yard, is the maximum striking distance for melee weapons.

Missile Range: The number of Yards for which an attacker may strike an enemy. 30 Yards is the maximum Missile Range. If an asterisk exists next to this number, this value is halved when riding a mount.

Weapon Speed: The amount your Attack Recovery is increased (penalized) for wielding the weapon. If an asterisk exists next to the value, this value is halved while riding a mount.

H2U: Hands to use. If the weapons uses two hands, two. If the weapon uses one hand, one. If an asterisk exists next to a value of TWO, this weapon may be used one-handed while riding a mount.

Weapon	Attack	Striking Distance	Str Req	Dex Req	Atk Type	Base Speed	H2U
Dagger	1D3	1	3	3	P	3	One
Short Sword	1D4	1	4	3	S	4	One
Long Sword	1D6	1	6	3	S	6	One
Broad Sword	1D8	1	8	3	S	8	One
2H Sword	1D10	2	10	6	S	5	*Two
Axe	1D4	1	4	2	S	4	One
Cleaver	1D6	1	6	3	S	6	One
2H Axe	1D10	1	10	4	S	5	*Two
Staff	1D6	2	2	2	C	3	*Two
Halberd	3D3	2	9	6	P/S	6	*Two
Spear	1D6	2	4	4	P/C	3	*Two
Lance	3D4	3	12	6	P	*10	*Two
Trident	2D4	2	7	7	P	5	*Two
Pick Axe	1D6	1	6	3	P	6	One
Club	1D4	1	3	3	C	4	One
Mace	1D6	1	6	3	C	6	One
Flail	2D3	1	4	8	C	3	One
War Hammer	2D4	2	8	4	C	*8	*Two
NULL	1D10	0	9	9	S/P/C	9	One

For Ranged Weapons, it is assumed the default projectile is loaded. Common sense will indicate that a Short Bow will launch an Arrow, or a Crossbow will launch a Bolt. If the weapon itself is a projectile, it will double as a Melee Weapon (but doesn't attack any faster).

Ranged Weapons

Weapon	Melee Attack	Ranged Attack	Missile Range	Str Req	Dex Req	Atk Type	Base Speed	H2U
Short Bow	N/A	1D6	*20	3	6	P	6	Two
Long Bow	N/A	1D8	*24	6	9	P	8	Two
Crossbow	N/A	2D4	*20	9	9	P	12	*Two
Double Crossbow	N/A	2D8	*20	12	9	P	18	*Two
Sling	N/A	1D4	*14	2	8	C	4	One
Throwing Dagger	1D3	1D3	*9	3	6	S	3	One
Javelin	1D6	1D10	*16	9	9	P	10	One
Boulder	2D3	2D6	*10	12	9	C	12	Two
Throwing Axe	1D4	1D6	*14	6	9	S	6	One
Blowgun	N/A	1D8	*18	1	8	P	8	*Two
NULL	N/A	2D2	1	9	9	P	9	*Two

Enchanted weapons will have increased Attack and stat requirements, in some cases Wisdom or Intelligence. Enchanted weapons will usually provide better Weapon Speeds. Strength and/or Dexterity requirements may be increased by up 1-2 points for every +1 Attack the enchanted weapon has.

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Character Data


Character Movement
Walking: Walking is standard combat movement. No bonuses are incurred. Stamina does not drop. Health and Mana Recovery are reduced while moving. Stamina recovery is reduced while walking.

Sprinting: Improves the character's movement by +50%, but drains 1 Stamina per 3 seconds. While Sprinting, a character's ability to block, evade or parry attacks are halved. Health Recovery and Mana Recovery are reduced to zero and Stamina cannot be recovered while sprinting; unless affected by a regenerative spell.

Running: Triples the character's Movement Speed, but drains 1 Stamina per second. While running, a character's Armor and ability to block, evade or parry attacks is reduced by 25% points. Health and Mana Recovery are reduced to zero while running and Stamina cannot be recovered while running; unless affected by a regenerative spell.

Charging: Triples the character's Movement Speed, grants +100% Attack, sets Armor to zero and drains 1 Stamina per second. The character cannot block, evade or parry attacks while charging. A charge cannot be broken unless interrupted by an outside source, until a character runs out of stamina, or until the target is reached AND attacked. A character must walk at least 1 second before he/she can charge. Health and Mana Recovery are reduced to zero while charging and Stamina cannot be recovered while charging; unless affected by a regenerative spell. Enemies cannot be charged within 3 yards of acquisition. If interrupted by an Attack or Interrupt spell, the charging character's Hit Recovery is tripled.




Defensive Maneuvers
Block: A percent chance for a character to negate physical damage and physical conditions by means of using a shield. Blocking can never surpass 50%. A character cannot Block, Parry and/or Evade an attack at the same time. While riding a mount, block cannot exceed 25%.

Parry: A percent chance for a character to negate physical damage, but not physical conditions, by means of blocking using one, or sometimes two, weapons. Blocking with one weapon cannot surpass 10% using one weapon. Blocking with two weapons cannot surpass 25%. While riding a mount, parry is halved.

Evade: A percent chance for a character to dodge a physical attack completely, avoiding all damage and impending conditions or effects. Evasion can never surpass 33%. A character cannot Block, Parry and/or Evade an attack at the same time. While riding a mount, evasion is reduced to zero and cannot be performed.









Mount Data
Mount Size
Gigantic: The largest of the large. Can improve defensive capability up to ten fold. Improves character hit points by +200%. Character Attack and Hit Recovery critically penalized. Both Attack and Hit Recovery may not be reduced below 20.

Large: Can improve defensive capability up to four fold. Improved character hit points by +150%. Character Attack and Hit Recovery heavily penalized. Both Attack and Hit Recovery may not be reduced below 16.

Medium: Can improve defensive capability up to two fold. Improved character hit points by +100%. Character Attack and Hit Recovery moderately penalized. Both Attack and Hit Recovery may not be reduced below 12.

Small: Can improve defensive capability up to one fold. Improved character hit points by +50%. Character Attack Hit Recovery lightly penalized. Both Attack and Hit Recovery may not be reduced below 8.

Mount Name	Travels By	Armor Capacity	Recovery Penalties	Movement Spd Adj.	Weight Capacity	Stamina Bonus	Size
Dragon	Air, Ground	+40	+20	+4/+4	600 lbs	+20	G
Griffon	Air, Ground	+40	+20	+4/+4	500 lbs	+20	G
War Horse	Ground	+30	+15	+1	400 lbs	+15	L
Dragon Lizard	Ground, Water	+20	+10	+2/2	300 lbs	+10	L
Raptor	Ground	+18	+9	+3	250 lbs	+9	M
Horse	Ground	+16	+8	+2	225 lbs	+8	M
Ostrich	Ground, Water	+14	+7	+1/+1	200 lbs	+7	M
Sabrertooth Tiger	Ground	+14	+7	+2	300 lbs	+7	M
Giant Wolf	Ground	+14	+7	+2	325 lbs	+7	S
Pony/Mule	Ground	+12	+6	+3	180 lbs	+6	S

• Giants cannot ride Small, Medium or Large mounts.
  
• Faeries cannot ride any mounts.
  
• Trolls cannot ride any mounts.
  
• Lizards cannot ride any mounts.
  
• Gnomes cannot ride Gigantic, Large, or Medium mounts.
  
• Dwarves cannot ride Dragons.
  
• Halflings cannot ride Gigantic or Large mounts.
  
• Goblins cannot ride Gigantic, or Large mounts.
  
• Orcs cannot ride Small mounts.
  

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Scratched Ideas

Race to Class/Faith Combinations
Amazon Thief of Air: Delinquent
Amazon Thief of Chaos: Prowler
Amazon Thief of Death: Ninja
Amazon Thief of Earth: Purloiner
Amazon Thief of Fire: Punk
Amazon Thief of Life: Sniper
Amazon Thief of Order: Gypsy
Amazon Thief of Water: Voyager

Archon Thief of Air: Trickster
Archon Thief of Chaos: Outlaw
Archon Thief of Death: Bandit
Archon Thief of Earth: Criminal
Archon Thief of Fire: Enforcer
Archon Thief of Life: Adventurer
Archon Thief of Order: Ranger
Archon Thief of Water: Pirate

Barbarian Thief of Air: Hijacker
Barbarian Thief of Chaos: Hunter
Barbarian Thief of Death: Stalker
Barbarian Thief of Earth: Mugger
Barbarian Thief of Fire: Criminal
Barbarian Thief of Life: Scoundrel
Barbarian Thief of Order: Thug
Barbarian Thief of Water: Ruffian

Elf Thief of Air: (Wind Elf) Charlatan
Elf Thief of Chaos: (Half Elf) Sleuth
Elf Thief of Death: (Golgothan) Assassin
Elf Thief of Earth: (Earth Elf) Rascal
Elf Thief of Fire: (Fire Elf) Larcenist
Elf Thief of Life: (Eldren) Archer
Elf Thief of Order: (Half Elf) Detective
Elf Thief of Water: (Aqua Elf) Con Artist

Dwarf Thief of Air: (Storm Dwarf) Bomber
Dwarf Thief of Chaos: (Barbarian Dwarf) Pillager
Dwarf Thief of Death: (Dark Dwarf) Scourger
Dwarf Thief of Earth: (Hill Dwarf) Knuckler
Dwarf Thief of Fire: (Red Dwarf) Punisher
Dwarf Thief of Life: (Spirit Dwarf) Constable
Dwarf Thief of Order: (White Dwarf) Plunderer
Dwarf Thief of Water: (Aqua Dwarf) Moonlighter

Halfling Thief of Air: Louse
Halfling Thief of Chaos: Pilferer
Halfling Thief of Death: Creeper
Halfling Thief of Earth: Burglar
Halfling Thief of Fire: Hotfoot
Halfling Thief of Life: Trickster
Halfling Thief of Order: Flatfoot
Halfling Thief of Water: Wetfoot

Faerie Thief of Air: Wind Chaser
Faerie Thief of Chaos: Hawkeye
Faerie Thief of Death: Dead Wing
Faerie Thief of Earth: Fallen Wing
Faerie Thief of Fire: Flame Chaser
Faerie Thief of Life: Lambent Wing
Faerie Thief of Order: Angel
Faerie Thief of Water: Squall

Giants cannot be Thieves.

Lizards may only be Elemental.
Lizard Thief of Air: Deviant
Lizard Thief of Earth: Scamp
Lizard Thief of Fire: Arsonist
Lizard Thief of Water: Widowmaker

Trolls cannot be Thieves and may only be Elemental.

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Fucking Awsome, as always Elleone ! I love the idea, but have you considered that the RPG element could be intensified? Ive had this vision that the game could work like you start as a follower with a basic career. Enough experience is gained actually in the stronghold, with another player as the lord. your next career would be as an Expert, and the next would be a champion, and finaly as lord. But the cool thing is the current lord will not want to give up power, you could be a renegade and take your own stronghold and temple by force, or you can slowly rise through the ranks and stage a popular or military coup if the fame falls too low.

Essentially, the classes and races you say I think should stay the same, but the element of careers should be added. Each career you can learn skills which become perm and take them through to your next careers and so on, for example like this

Follower: Expert: Champion: Lord:
Hunter -> Scout -> Ranger -> Lord of Whatever

Keeping the three Champions, and Lords unchanged, like yours, but you start life from the bottom. That way you can run off and join Fire if your a lizzard and be a badass if you wanted.

This way gives it more MMO potential, with players fighting to stay alive as Lord, and hiring other players and giving them quests.

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May 13, 2009 15:15:03 GMT -6 @htoothrot said:

Fucking Awsome, as always Elleone ! I love the idea, but have you considered that the RPG element could be intensified? Ive had this vision that the game could work like you start as a follower with a basic career. Enough experience is gained actually in the stronghold, with another player as the lord. your next career would be as an Expert, and the next would be a champion, and finaly as lord. But the cool thing is the current lord will not want to give up power, you could be a renegade and take your own stronghold and temple by force, or you can slowly rise through the ranks and stage a popular or military coup if the fame falls too low.

Essentially, the classes and races you say I think should stay the same, but the element of careers should be added. Each career you can learn skills which become perm and take them through to your next careers and so on, for example like this

Follower: Expert: Champion: Lord:
Hunter -> Scout -> Ranger -> Lord of Whatever

Keeping the three Champions, and Lords unchanged, like yours, but you start life from the bottom. That way you can run off and join Fire if your a lizzard and be a badass if you wanted.

This way gives it more MMO potential, with players fighting to stay alive as Lord, and hiring other players and giving them quests.

There could be an evolutionary element added to the game. For instance, every 15 levels you advance your class to a new level. I'd have to give that some though.

There is another thread where I have ideas about "world events" and the global territories, etc. Alliances would be made based on player faith interaction. Such that if Life worshipers often team up with Water worshipers, it will be tallied by the server and if Water and Life players team more often than the duel, with certain mathematics factored in, Water and Life would form an alliance and share territory and share in player-vs-player Faith wars. One limitation would be that opposite faiths would never form Alliances.

[htoothrot]

Maybe teaming up with the opposite faith could make you loose fame or something. Renegade Water troops could team up with Fire, but if your in possesion of the temple, you loose face amongst your followers for dealing with the heathans.

[Boaster]

Opposite faiths can team up, but they cannot form alliances as a result.

"Renegades" are only going to be the NPCs controlled by the neutral hostile AI player.