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Post by euorazn on Jul 28, 2009 16:52:28 GMT -6
Hmmm... I'm just wondering how this is really a LOM game, rather than copying something, say, dungeons and dragons.
RPG is fine, but I think it should be restricted to LOM classes (i.e. bards did not exist and therefore shouldn't).
'Course, that's just my opinion...
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Post by thandu on Aug 14, 2009 16:36:26 GMT -6
It's been a while, hasn't it? I may have taken some liberties and stolen RPG and fantasy elements from every which way, but they tend to work. Attached (if the file works) is an Excel Spreadsheet showing class data and class/race access. Since first incarnation, some changes were made, namely, no faith is without any class. Even Chaos has a few dedicated Goblin Paladins, and some of Water wish to delve into the powers of infero to fight Fire with Fire as a diabolic warlock. Attachments:
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Post by thandu on Aug 22, 2009 14:51:01 GMT -6
Since every faith can stand on its own classwise, the lack of all sized creatures in all teams means... little. The benefits of size will be stat or weapon based only at best, height will mean little, flight will mean little beyond padding fall damage.
More to come in time.
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Post by thandu on Sept 18, 2009 12:59:56 GMT -6
So now I've come to realize that Imps may share an ancestory with Elves, meaning they may be fully of Urakian descent and not even demons at all!
This makes them entirely viable to play as!
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Post by Boaster on Sept 18, 2009 13:53:27 GMT -6
So now I've come to realize that Imps may share an ancestory with Elves, meaning they may be fully of Urakian descent and not even demons at all! This makes them entirely viable to play as! Source?
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Post by thandu on Sept 18, 2009 22:02:56 GMT -6
LoM Manual... which I'm glad was found in PDF, though for some reason, the left half of some pages cut off on my home computer.
Anyways, its page 197 and reads as such:
"Imps are the darker cousins of elves, hiding in hotsprings and foul smelling mudpots."
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Post by wheeler on Jan 9, 2010 18:47:09 GMT -6
Hm. Makes sense, just about, more like a magickal mutation than a created race I would think. Well, that is if you discount Llanwylln's Will.
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Post by QUAAL on Jan 10, 2010 2:01:15 GMT -6
what is this manual? can i have pls?
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Post by wheeler on Jan 11, 2010 20:11:08 GMT -6
Odd, I never had that page-cut problem with the manual... QUAAL, the LOM:SE manual should be downloadable if it's not in the LOM:SE rarfile. I can't recall where I got mine since I got it many years back. RE: the Vyantha: I'd rather not believe that the Amazons actually have or need males in their society. Even if they're as human as say, barbarians, I'm sure Synora established their society as matriarchal and female-oriented for a reason and easily handles such details as reproduction, sexuality etc. EDIT: See here: www.sierrahelp.com/Documents/Manuals/Lords_of_Magic_-_Special_Edition_-_Manual.pdf.
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Post by thandu on Feb 1, 2010 16:31:44 GMT -6
Why deny gender access? You think other MMOs do well when you cannot be a certain gender?
Again, my idea is that men are relegated to light soldiering and labor. Someone has to comandeer the ships, and the idea of Archon Cavalry is just... well, its plain silly! I'll explain why in a bit, but first...
The idea of a matriarchical society is not scrapped by any stretch, but with a good many decades between Balkoth's death and times of awkward peace, I'd say that the spread of cultures could lead males to wonder their place.
As for the races, I believe that races should stick to their faith. Sure there may be exceptions to the rule, which you can eventually emulate, but you start off venerating your element or arcana.
The idea of a fresh adventuring Barbarian fighting for Order, Wind, Earth or Life seems a bit odd, but you can work towards it.
To deny any race two genders is just mean.
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Post by wheeler on Feb 10, 2010 17:16:46 GMT -6
[Laugh out Loud]! Sorry for being so mean! I get what you're saying. I just don't believe Synora made the Vyantha with sexual differentiation - which ofc means there's no sexual dimorphism either. The possibility does exist, true (O.o) but there simply is no need. Yes, Lizards have two genders, but naiads/water elementals afaik don't. If there are males among them then such thoughts would eventually occur. Then there could ofc be an alliance between the Archons and the Amazons that benefits them both, maybe that's why there are Archon cavalry units in the Vyantha military? Male offspring go to the Archons, females stay in Amazon lands.
So, as regards the Vyantha, I'm not set in stone about this but my personal preference is ixnay to the em-nay.
The idea of a barbarian adventurer on a spirit quest, mercing or just walkabout while allied or in fealty to a Faith other than Chaos is very attractive (although ofc it's easier for their free society than other races). And cross-culturation will happen, it's even hinted at in the manual and Balathustrius's writings.
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Post by gunther on Feb 12, 2010 11:54:13 GMT -6
as far as i can tell this is an argument over wether amazons should be able to use male AND female
well the obvious anser is yes the amazons use women as the war force and men are barly even refrenced in amazon culture women rule but in the rest of the faiths men rule and women gain little respect the men of the barbarians would see it as an insult most others would just grumble about it so my opinion is men would be used as diplomats and hold most positions as the females but with less power
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Post by thandu on Feb 22, 2010 16:36:19 GMT -6
In a sense, Gender playstyles are equal like in most MMOs. The only real difference may be flavor NPC text. This will not be prevelent to all races. Some like Barbarians will literally never have this issue, but Amazons, Lizardkin and possibly Witcars will have a large amount until you leave your starting area.
For the most part, dialogue is mostly class based.
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