Portrait Request Thread

[Boaster]

With Shin in mind, this is a portrait request thread for him. This will give him an idea of what others would like to see with LOMSE as far as new portraits go.

His (existing) portrait pack will be included in the PIC5R3. Previously it was just something that we could add to the game as a stand alone thing. This sort of changes since now I can designate portraits!


So if you have a particular unit portrait you'd like to see improved, for instance a new Witch Lord Portrait, then let him know!

List these criteria to help him:
Unit
Description of what you'd like it to look like
Why would you want that?


My personal requests are:
- Witch Lord
- Witch (3 or so, this is the Witch Champion, trainable).
- Orc Warriors (3 or so, this is the Orc Champion, trainable).
- Orc Wolfriders (they don't have a regular portrait)
- New Merchant Portraits (3 or so, they appear in trading).
- Executioner (hard to improve on this one though)
- Warlock
- Murderer
- Balkoth
- Halberdiers
- Zombies
- Lich (2 or so)
- Elven Archers
- Shaman Queen
- Elite Huntress
- Amazon Princess (Amazon Warlord).
- Heavy Cavalry (Water cavalry)
- Centaur Swordsmen (you already made Centaur Archers )
- Crusader
- Arch Wizard
- Enchantress Queen
- Punisher Lord (1: evil grin with wide eyes, menacing, with jester cap, 2: low key, tough, maybe frumpy looking; or anything else you can think of that's fitting; maybe an eye patch in one!).
- Faerie Thief Lord (the one you did before was great, but an alternate pic for Faerie Lord as well)
- Burglar Lord (1: not a scared one, hooded maybe, 2: a smug looking halfling with a wearing a cap).

Why do I want these?: Because a few of these could use an upgrade in their portrait appearances and they would do good to have additional variants, so players of the mod can cycle through them. And because I made it so the mod could designate different portraits.

Everything he makes hence forth will be added to the PIC5R3.


Multiples are encouraged.


Hopefully Shin can fulfill the requests.


Even if Shin wants to add his own, we can add them because it may lead to new possible Champions... maybe?

[Boaster]

This is in the eventual case that he does respond or plan to come back. I sent him an email recently. Don't know if he's around still.

[shin]

Yes I am still around!

I will do a couple portraits this week, done 1 today in 10 mins, all the free time I had. Will get some more in tomorrow.
I keep that list in mind, Ill probably not do some of them, and do some that are not on the list as well, however Ill need support and critics, and of course requests ;D

Will keep you updated, cheers!

[Boaster]

Feb 22, 2010 23:35:37 GMT -6 shin said:

Yes I am still around!

I will do a couple portraits this week, done 1 today in 10 mins, all the free time I had. Will get some more in tomorrow.
I keep that list in mind, Ill probably not do some of them, and do some that are not on the list as well, however Ill need support and critics, and of course requests ;D

Will keep you updated, cheers!

Good deal, shin. Anyone else have some portrait ideas?

[skidi]

maybe a specal one for the elven prince

[Boaster]

Feb 23, 2010 10:29:16 GMT -6 @skidi said:

maybe a specal one for the elven prince

Ah, yes. LILDR, Pegasus Riding Lord.

Then I suppose we'll need some Troll King (EALD1) portraits as well. Same unit as the Rock Troll basically.

[quentinak]

I always thought the Amazons should look more like non-Caucasian races. African, perhaps, as can be assumed from their skin color.

We need more diversity in Urak I believe.

[Boaster]

Feb 23, 2010 14:11:48 GMT -6 quentinak said:

I always thought the Amazons should look more like non-Caucasian races. African, perhaps, as can be assumed from their skin color.

We need more diversity in Urak I believe.

Heh. Well, Amazons aren't exactly "African" but they may have more of an ebony look to them.

[shin]

I really like the current amazons, maybe just the lord who look like a guy, but apart from that the artist did a good job on them.

[Boaster]

I was thinking that maybe a new Grand Ranger portrait, making him look like a Pirate. That'd be cool.

[shin]

Hey man as promised ( but a bit late ) Here are 10 concepts I was able to plug in my free time here and there ;D

Ill still do a couple ones, but thats it for this week:

[Boaster]

Good pics so far.

Though a few things to comment.

The Punisher Lord and Burglar Lord portraits look too Elfish. Especially with the pointy ears on the Punisher Lord portrait. The Punisher Lords looks more Goblin than Dwarf. The Burglar Lord looks like a Mite.

With the Punisher and Burglar Lord, I would say look at the original in-game portraits and perhaps use those as a guide.

The Punisher Lord, I would imagine would have a rounder face. More horizontally oval than vertically. Just kind of think of Stewie Griffin from family guy in that respect.


Pictures 1, 4 & 7 in the Punisher champion set would be a good pictures to refer to. Also the Punisher Lord portrait itself. Typical feature of a Fire Dwarf would be the bulbous nose, round face, and dwarven.

That particular portrait reminds me of the Hobb Goblin or Green Goblin from the Spiderman series. I think others would agree.

The Burglar Lord portrait with the cap looks like he would be a Mite. Have you seen the portrait for the Mite? Reminds me of that.

When I mentioned with a cap, I kind of meant like the one cap you see on the sprite itself.



Again with the Burglar Lord, you need to think of rounder features instead of slender. Halflings have more child like, or juvenile, features. Think of pleasantly plump (but not fat) kids 9 to 14, add a touch of grown up and voila. "Dinner yet?" hahahah!



That other portrait below the Orc, screams MORTAL KOMBAT.
SCORPION! SUB-ZERO! SMOKE! ERMAC!


The Orc Wolfrider portrait is great. However it does have a Warcraft Orcish look to it. Still very good, a definite keeper.


The Amazon Princess portrait looks good, though passive. Kind of has that Mona Lisa thing going there. This portrait looks as though it would fit better for the High Priestess.


My final, and most critical mention: the eye marks. Almost every picture presented there are eye marks. Some are scars or presumably war paint. Scars look great on Barbarians and Orcs, and War Paint looks great on Elves and Dark Elves. The Punisher Lord portrait with the scar across his whole head, diagonally offset, that's unique and that kicks ass.

The Halberdiers and Orc Infantry look great.

You made another Centaur Archer portrait. That's cool, but you already made one from before. That particular portrait looks more Elfish than centaur.

The Elven archer portrait looks good, though I'm not sure if that fits for the Elven Archer. Maybe that could be one of the Elven Prince portraits (the Special Life Champion, LILDR). I might use that for Elven Patriarch and Elven Prince for players to switch to.

The Centaur Swordsman looks like a combo of Orc, Elf and Barbarian.


I hope I have been helpful. I do not want to discourage you at all!

[Wolfnine]

Hey guys, I thought I would jump in here. I have a couple questions that I thought were relevant in this post.

#1: I have been trying to find an MPQ editor that will allow me to crack open the LOMSE shell so I can extract all the images in the game. No luck so far, its mostly WIN.MPQ and Wow editors out there... I to feel the LOMSE character portraits are weak, and I want to modify some of them myself. I have alot more questions regarding this MPQ editor or anything that would lead to a tutorial regarding breaking into LOMSE,

WHERE DO I START?

#2. I want to start with the Dwarven Warlord, hes cool I liked SHIN's images, I think I might add my own here also. Ill go draw one up right now and post it... I'll follow along this thread as we go along, maybe I can contribute to the LOMSE image upgrade as well? It would be really nice to be able to crack the LOMSE fiels though so I have an actual to work with and I can determine DPI, and dimensions of a given character image?

STAY TUNED I'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH A DWARF...

[Wolfnine]

Dwarf Lord, GO EARTH!

Whatcha guys think?

Once again it would be nice to know how to crack into LOMSE so I can modify a file before I even begin it so the size and format match, time saving stuff.

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[Boaster]

Mar 26, 2010 19:09:51 GMT -6 Wolfnine said:

Dwarf Lord, GO EARTH!

Whatcha guys think?

Once again it would be nice to know how to crack into LOMSE so I can modify a file before I even begin it so the size and format match, time saving stuff.

THAT is quite an awesome dwarf picture. I'd say it's a quality dwarven warlord portrait, or any dwarven warrior portrait at all. I'd love to see more work. My only grief with that particular picture, besides the background behind the character portrait and dimensions of the picture not being 70x67 (if I recall correctly) is that the helmet has two penis shaped horns. Yeah, we all know they're horns, but when compared to other Earth Warrior portraits, or even Chaos Warrior portraits, the horns of your picture look like penises. Other than that, it fits the bill.

What you're looking for, in regards to MPQ editing is using WINMPQ, as found on my website (it's the exacty same one I use for on-the-spot editing and viewing of MPQs). WinMPQ, the RunPack files, etc, but most importantly the LISTFILES. The Lords of Magic List file should be included with the download, but is also available via download as a stand alone.

Then once you have WinMPQ properly installed, go to the LOMSE folder and open PIC.mpq.

All images within PIC.mpq are LBM files, so MS Paint will not suffice in this situation. So, in order to view LBM files, you will need a paint program (which I doubt will be a problem, given that you're an artist, if I assume this as fact).

I must know: Did you draw that Dwarven Warrior portrait?


Thanks, I look forward to your response.

[Wolfnine]

Yes thats hand drawn, took about 15 minutes, and another 20 to 30 to format and size with background etc... But that can be streamlined once I get a little image pipeline going. I need to practice that WINMPQ thing. Ill start looking into it this week. I'll also modify the penis horns.

The dimensions and background are super simple problems, once I have the correct setup from the outset I could go twice as fast. But once again if that 67x70 or whatever you mentioned is the actual format, the dwarf lord sharpness will be significantly dulled. I need to get the actual files.

K I gotta go do homework. Thanks Boaster!

[Wolfnine]

Alright Boaster here is where I am.

I fixed the horns, they have been circumcised.

I downloaded WINMPQ which turns out to be Ladiks? I used it to open the pic file in the LOMSE folder. It extracts like 500 files that are all unreadable .xxx files... I tried playing with it some more to see if I could open them with PS or something else but I can't. I know the code is there but it is all unreadable garbage...

Where to now?

I'll start working on some more sketches, maybe the dwarven infantry their image sucks imo.

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[Boaster]

Mar 27, 2010 8:08:58 GMT -6 Wolfnine said:

Alright Boaster here is where I am.

I fixed the horns, they have been circumcised.

I downloaded WINMPQ which turns out to be Ladiks? I used it to open the pic file in the LOMSE folder. It extracts like 500 files that are all unreadable .xxx files... I tried playing with it some more to see if I could open them with PS or something else but I can't. I know the code is there but it is all unreadable garbage...

Where to now?

I'll start working on some more sketches, maybe the dwarven infantry their image sucks imo.

Refer to SHIN's portrait of Dwarven Infantry. The above list, original post see above, is what I'm looking to add to the PIC5R3 MPQ. If you can provide me no less than 6 before Monday afternoon, I will delay the PIC5R3's release for two weeks so that you may create more pictures to be added to the PIC5R3.

If you find it necessary to need to contact me to ask questions, first use the Private Message system on the message board and I will respond further.

Do you have yahoo or MSN messenger? Aol instant messenger?

You need to use WinMPQ, not Ladik's MPQ Viewer.

Then click on Options in the menu bar. Go to the second tab labeled "File Lists". Add "Lords of Magic.txt" to the file list, by way of the "Add List File" button.

Don't have the List File? Look on Mantera's LOMSE Website and search for the List File in the Downloads section.

[shin]

Alright Ill change them around, youre right about the mods I gotta do boaster, and that dwarf lord looks pretty cool too wolfnine!

[Boaster]

Mar 27, 2010 12:54:48 GMT -6 shin said:

Alright Ill change them around, youre right about the mods I gotta do boaster, and that dwarf lord looks pretty cool too wolfnine!

I'm glad you agree.

Once again, I do not mean to discourage you, Shin, or Wolfnine AT ALL. You guys have a talent I was not able to develop (I was an "artist" when I was young). My suggestions are to help guide you to creating the absolute best portraits that would fit within the characteristics of each unit and with the set style LOMSE presents.

I thank you both for your great works.