Unit Experience per Level

[Boaster]

This is something I have come back to several times through out modding, and I find myself back again.

Unit experience per Level!

I try to settle on something that I think will work, but it sits well for awhile but doesn't feel "mathematically right." To me anyway.

This is the scale I'd like to use with experience:
Lord Type: [500 1000 2000 3000 5000 8000 13000 21000 34000 55000 89000 144000 233000 377000]
Champion Type: [400 800 1600 2400 4000 6800 10800 17600 28400]
-or-
Lord Type: [500 1000 1500 2500 4000 6500 10500 17000 27500 44500 72000 116500 188500 305000]
Champion Type: [400 800 1200 2000 3200 5200 8400 13600 22000]

Basically, the next level builds upon the current experience value reached, plus the experience value of the previous level.

Presently, it looks more like so:
Lord type: [600 1800 3600 6000 9000 12600 16800 21600 27000 33000 39600 46800 54600 63000]
Champion Type: [500 1500 3000 5000 7500 10500 14000 18000 22500]



And between the Lord type experience progressing and the champion type, I would use a similar pattern for military units and creatures, by skipping every other number. I.e. [500 1600 4000 108000]


Any thoughts on this level progression idea?

[orzie]

What was actually wrong with the current experience gains?

[Boaster]

Aug 20, 2015 11:36:23 GMT -6 orzie said:

What was actually wrong with the current experience gains?

It isn't exactly consistent, and isn't "mathematically right" or "logical." To me anyway. There's not really a wrong way to do it, but I just want something a little more "perfect." Call me crazy, I suppose.

[plebeian]

Aug 20, 2015 8:17:19 GMT -6 Boaster said:

This is something I have come back to several times through out modding, and I find myself back again.

Unit experience per Level!

I try to settle on something that I think will work, but it sits well for awhile but doesn't feel "mathematically right." To me anyway.

This is the scale I'd like to use with experience:
Lord Type: [500 1000 2000 3000 5000 8000 13000 21000 34000 55000 89000 144000 233000 377000]
Champion Type: [400 800 1600 2400 4000 6800 10800 17600 28400]
-or-
Lord Type: [500 1000 1500 2500 4000 6500 10500 17000 27500 44500 72000 116500 188500 305000]
Champion Type: [400 800 1200 2000 3200 5200 8400 13600 22000]

Basically, the next level builds upon the current experience value reached, plus the experience value of the previous level.

Presently, it looks more like so:
Lord type: [600 1800 3600 6000 9000 12600 16800 21600 27000 33000 39600 46800 54600 63000]
Champion Type: [500 1500 3000 5000 7500 10500 14000 18000 22500]



And between the Lord type experience progressing and the champion type, I would use a similar pattern for military units and creatures, by skipping every other number. I.e. [500 1600 4000 108000]


Any thoughts on this level progression idea?

    I´m rather new and inexperienced, so feel free to ignore this. <.> But I really do like the new Fibonacci-esque progression system! The easier progression in the beginning allows one to get champions and military units online faster, maybe get mages up to levels 4/6/8 for the research faster, resulting in an easier and quicker early game, maybe even quick rush tactics in Multiplayer. The counter-balance of larger delays between higher levels seems appropriate, especially since Champions/Lords are meant to be priority targets, and all. Losing a level 9 Champion due to poor decision-making should feel painful, given the resources they cost in comparison. Not to mention that finally reaching that level 10 would feel rewarding and accomplishing aside from visible increases in Mage power (got to love that visible Terra-forming spell increase).

    It's just my opinion, but I especially enjoy the first progression, that uses more experience for Champions and Lords than the default. More experience required makes gaining experience relevant for longer, delaying the "everything's leveled up" end-game, if just a while longer. It would also make Lords veeery valuable in terms of soaking and distributing experience as teachers, indirectly increasing the need to protect the building from moro-imean...marauding parties.

    Terribly sorry for the long post... simply found this topic interesting! And apologies in case I've misinterpreted your intention with the new progression method.

TL; DR: Your ideas sound good, go for it! \o/

[Boaster]

The idea was, in part, to enhance the experience gain system to follow a fibonacci scale of increasing difficulty level up.

For the most part it makes sense, up to a point, but I had to make modifications to keep it within reach to obtain maximum level. A unit only gains so much experience from an encounter.

I still feel like the experience progression of champions and lords needs to be improved upon.



Addendum
The experience per level is related to experience required to reach level 2.

For Lords, 600 experience to reach level 2. Then to reach level 3, it's going to take 600 more experience than the last time, requiring 1200 experience from 600 to reach 1800 experience.

So basically, +600 experience plus the experience gap from the previous level is the experience needed in succession.

Second Level experience * Current Level equals experience needed to reach the next level.

In this example: 600 * 14 = 8400, the experience required to go from Level 14 to Level 15.

54600 (Level 14) + 8400 = 63000 (Level 15) experience.

It's not quite linear progression, but each level requires having gained more experience than the previous.


8400 experience, in some ways, isn't quite enough. I might have to make the experience jumps increase by twice the first level experience, to slow down progression a touch.

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