Health Recoveries

[l'Ancien]

I like the attention you are putting into health recoveries, but I thought some of the numbers were a little boring and too uniform, and sometimes a little wierd.

I like the fact that recovery enhancing spells now help moved recoveries as well as inside/outside recoveries.

I like the fact that the hierarchy is not locked in as "inside > outside > moved".

Although I see no reason why any given team can't have recovery ratios that are 1:1 for any two of the recovery rates, I think there are altogether too many identical numbers.

I would stil prefer to have undead units have zero recovery, but have a way for adding new units without reducing the unit level back to 1, if you can solve that known bug. I wonder if the solution is that Shades increase in level and skeletons do not have levels. Shades are singles, so they wouldn't suffer from that bug. Skeletons aren't that bright anyway, so having them increase in level doesn't really make sense. In fact, over time they would probably tend to deteriorate, rather than enhance.

I think that moved should rarely be the highest number, although I could accept some faiths/races that heal better while moving.

Naturally, some faiths will have higher base healing levels than others (in other words, the number you multiply the following ratios by could differ by faith and by class).

I submit the following broad suggestions for ratios:

Order 3:2:1 (Civilized, nobility)
Chaos 1:2:3 (Barbaric, nomadic)
Death 2:1:1 (Diminished healing, especially outside and in motion)
Undead 1:0:0 (Only heal if in a crypt)
Life 1:2:2 (Enhanced healing from nature.)
Water 2:1:3 (Always moving from place to place)
Fire 2:3:1 (Resting is better in heat, but nomads prefer the open)
Air 1:3:2 (Open air is best, moving is fine)
Earth 3:1:2 (Underground is best, high endurance)

Following this pattern, opposite faiths have opposite highs and lows. Also, no pattern is repeated, so each faith is unique. Hopefully, the explanation makes the sense, given the characteristics of each Faith.

[Boaster]

I like these ideas. Some of which already reflect what I have.

Also, if you didn't know this... If you rest inside (with 100% movement), your outside and inside health recovery bonus stack.

For Order I had them to a 1:1:2 ratio, because Archons often go on Crusades or go to War and they're forced to march.

I might have to switch Order and Chaos health recovery patterns, but I don't know about the rest. Surely an Eagle or a Dragonfly would like to stay in doors and rest their wings, right?

What I have now is about as close as it's going to get.

[l'Ancien]

admin said:

I like these ideas. Some of which already reflect what I have.

Also, if you didn't know this... If you rest inside (with 100% movement), your outside and inside health recovery bonus stack.

For Order I had them to a 1:1:2 ratio, because Archons often go on Crusades or go to War and they're forced to march.

I might have to switch Order and Chaos health recovery patterns, but I don't know about the rest. Surely an Eagle or a Dragonfly would like to stay in doors and rest their wings, right?

What I have now is about as close as it's going to get.

I didn't realize those scores stacked. That changes things. It makes my idea somewhere between complicated and unworkable, unless you can set the inside to be negative, and that could be confusing too. It's confusing that they add two of them together, but not the others.

Oh well. The reason I was thinking about this was that playing as Order, and noticing the reversed healing levels, but assuming that they were exclusive (not stacked), I would routine eject damaged units from buildings, walk them a few paces off, and then return them, to "benefit" from the high moved recovery rate. It sounds like I was probably wasting my time, or even counter-productive, if the two resting rates would have been combined otherwise, because staying put would have been the same (or better, with spell enhancement).

I didn't realize that the stacking was hard-coded in, to give the advantage to resting inside. I thought that was just a relationship between the exclusive values that was easy to change, and that you had changed dramatically. Because of that hard-coding, it appears that you were merely refining the ideas, rather than changing them as drastically as I imagined.

I suspect that it is not worth putting a negative recovery on resting inside, to try to achieve anything, so Eagles and Dragonflies can enjoy resting inside. It's probably open and airy enough anyway in Air archetecture that they are not going to feel suffocated or claustrophobic.

Carry on. If anything I said here turns out useful, great. If not, thanks for your work.

[Boaster]

I did make some changes.

> Chaos follows a 1:1:2 ratio (Inside/Outside/Moved).
> Order follows a 2:1:1 ratio.
> Water follows a 2:1:1/2 ratio.
> Fire follows a 1:2:1 ratio.
> Life still follows a 1:1:1 ratio.
> Earth and Air still follow a 2:2:1 ratio.
> Death still follows a 1:1:1/2 ratio. Death Lords however don't exactly follow.