Areille
Member LVL 6
"For Llandwyllen"
Posts: 80 
|
Post by Areille on Mar 14, 2008 15:52:10 GMT -6
You may or may not know but every faith in Urak has it's own corresponmding god as detailed in the backstory, some units even mention these diety's in thier game speech.
It would be an interesting idea if these Gods could factor into gameplay rather than just being limited to the backstory. What if Lords could hold Great Festivals at their temples in return for fame and favour from their diety? In return thier god would grant gifts as an expressesion of gratitude, nothing game imbalancing but significant at the least.
For example, If the Life Goddess: Landwyllen is pleased with her followers she might, during a battle resurect a fallen champion or give her followers knowledge of a previously un-researched Life spell.
Players may also choose to sacrifice units or creatures during festivals but of course only if the god accepts Sacrifices (Life goddess wouldnt, death would)
Festivals would last for 1 turn and be animated by fireworks or similar light displays overhead of the Great Temple. What do you think?
|
|
|
|
Post by Boaster on Mar 14, 2008 16:03:03 GMT -6
You may or may not know but every faith in Urak has it's own corresponmding god as detailed in the backstory, some units even mention these diety's in thier game speech. It would be an interesting idea if these Gods could factor into gameplay rather than just being limited to the backstory. What if Lords could hold Great Festivals at their temples in return for fame and favour from their diety? In return thier god would grant gifts as an expressesion of gratitude, nothing game imbalancing but significant at the least. For example, If the Life Goddess: Landwyllen is pleased with her followers she might, during a battle resurect a fallen champion or give her followers knowledge of a previously un-researched Life spell. Players may also choose to sacrifice units or creatures during festivals but of course only if the god accepts Sacrifices (Life goddess wouldnt, death would) Festivals would last for 1 turn and be animated by fireworks or similar light displays overhead of the Great Temple. What do you think? Hmmm... I don't know. I can't really imagine this being implemented in a game. But who knows. |
|
Areille
Member LVL 6
"For Llandwyllen"
Posts: 80
|
Post by Areille on Mar 14, 2008 16:34:47 GMT -6
Why not? It may sound complicated on paper but in practice it's not that hard to implement, all it would need is an icon in your stronghold informing the player how they're god currently feels toward them. I don't know whether you've ever played the game Pharoh but it had a complex god system whereby you could earn favour and recieve gifts from a range of deitys by building temples to them.
It would be a nice "mini feature" to have in the game provided it was balanced.
|
|
|
|
Post by acheron on Mar 20, 2008 3:27:05 GMT -6
i can see it happening, EQ2 has a system sort of like that..granted its an entirely different kind of game you still get the idea.
the downside is i dont ever see a LOM2 ever happening unless a bunch of skilled players/programmers come together and make it as a free product, they would also need funding to begin with or the tools to do so and therein lie the problem, becouse sierra doesnt even consider this game they're product anymore so finding a gaming company might be the best bet but it would be like a game of hot potato no one wants to touch a product sierra might still put claim to again at any time they see fit for whatever reasons.
|
|
thandu
Member LVL 7
Posts: 116
|
Post by thandu on Mar 20, 2008 13:28:14 GMT -6
Lords of Magic has 'gods' but not all of them are well defined and they dont play as great a role in the world as in other games. Those I know of are:
Llanwylen - goddess of Life
Golgoth - Death god, one could almost see Balkoth as a Jesus to Balkoth's God... okay, maybe less than that and more of a vessel of power.
Synora - the 'goddess' that the Viantha (Amazons) refer to constantly. She is a water giant, the last remaining known.
The Triad - Order's holy council. These guys don't really have names and I forget their deep function off the top of my head.
Beyond that, the other elemental faiths worship the greater giants that gave them their lives and the Barbarians and Wild Races of Chaos worship animal gods and spirits.
I honestly see 'religion' having minimal effect on gameplay beyond maybe if there are Priestly/Holy warrior troops that may get a god given power.
|
|
Areille
Member LVL 6
"For Llandwyllen"
Posts: 80
|
Post by Areille on Feb 3, 2009 20:04:40 GMT -6
Hmm after thinking about this its probabaly not a great idea, it would just get abit overley complicated an probabaly become a chore to most players rather than something fun.
I was just thinking of how we could bring the backstory into the game more I agree its best as it is now.
|
|
|
|
Post by pigtails on Apr 10, 2009 2:35:39 GMT -6
It comes to mind that it might be interesting to have a god for each faith/class combination. I wouldn't want to see an expansion of the pantheon really though.
|
|
tyr
Member LVL 1
Posts: 17
|
Post by tyr on Apr 10, 2009 21:53:21 GMT -6
At some point I remembered the life goddess being Llawyen rather than what it presently is.
It would be nice if the gods played a factor, but we'd need more gods and goddesses. And both good and bad ones for each faith.
|
|
|
|
Post by Venture Industries on Apr 10, 2009 23:53:59 GMT -6
At some point I remembered the life goddess being Llawyen rather than what it presently is. It would be nice if the gods played a factor, but we'd need more gods and goddesses. And both good and bad ones for each faith. I'd like to think they already do play a factor with their magical power they imbue on their followers. Maybe not? I'd be interested in what Gods or Goddesses you think we should add. I like the good and bad deities idea. I'm sure Life and Death would be most complicated. Order already has the Triad so that could be an obstacle. I have a theory that fits my thinking, but it doesn't really bring "Good" and "Evil" to each faith. |
|
|
|
Post by pigtails on Apr 11, 2009 14:58:58 GMT -6
At some point I remembered the life goddess being Llawyen rather than what it presently is. It would be nice if the gods played a factor, but we'd need more gods and goddesses. And both good and bad ones for each faith. This game already exists. It's called Age of Mythology. Also it's worth reminding that the gods of urak don't have any direct way of influencing events unless you change the games story from the beginning. It would make it more a remake I guess. |
|
tyr
Member LVL 1
Posts: 17
|
Post by tyr on Oct 26, 2009 0:21:41 GMT -6
According to the spell descriptions they're actually pretty active. Indirectly, yes, but the impact is there.
I was thinking more on the lines of them giving small boons to their followers (like speeding up spell research a bit/giving a minor artifact to a life player who has tried to be more diplomatic instead of bloodthirsty). Maybe you could ask them for small blessings, which they might agree to. Nothing that would draw serious attention to them (since you're already their follower, you don't need them to prove anything) or be remotely exploitable.
The gods/goddesses of Urak are more like "living" concepts rather than people with superpowers, unlike Zeus or Thor. This is one of the reasons why I like the "greater powers" aspect of the game so much.
Maybe "good" and "evil" are not the correct words to use though. "Positive"/"negative" aspects are closer to my point.
For life that is about kindness, protection, benevolence and living to the fullest before dying - the "positive" side of life faith - there is Llanwylen.
But what about life that is about "bloated-ness", drunkness, indolence and prolonging your own life beyond your time (not in an undead state, mind you) at the expense of those of others' - the "negative", selfish side of the life? What about the side of death that focuses on accepting death and preparing for it rather than forcing it on other creatures? The Triad is easy. I doubt those three would really care if order was about following orders to the letter or following the "spirit" of the law, heh. So they'd be the same gods for the "positive"/"negative" aspects, letting their followers sort it out. The greater order of the universe (whatever it is) is beyond anyone's understanding anyway.
|
|
